Comments on my previous post
Chris said...
if bush duped us then kerry, clinton, schumer, and all those democrat idiots did too since they had in their possession the exact same confidential CIA report. When clinton and kerry were asked about receiving the cia documents, they did not deny having the same docs as bush and his administration. when asked if they read it - both their answers were -- 'well i read bits and pieces of it'... so i wish people like you would get your facts straight before just blaming a man just because you hate the poor guy and it's what everyone else is doing. he made a bad mistake just like the rest of them but it's VERY hard to just up and leave. it may look like there's chaos in Iraq now but if we DO just up and leave, it'll worsen and not just for Iraq but also for America. .. and i speak from experience - i was an air force pilot & commander in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq from the very beginning. Yes, Even I disagree with Bush once in a while but please cut the guy just a little break. I can't even imagine how he sleeps at night with all the stress, the threats, and knowing how bad Iraq looks in the public's eye. If Kerry was in office, I still wouldn't wish him harm like you and the liberals wish on Bush.
My reply:
Chris, I don't know if you're ever gonna be reading this, but I never wished him harm. I never did say anything about upping and leaving either. And I never said anything about the democrats at all. If there is any chance you'd read what I wrote again, I hope you'd understand that I'm angry for the fact that asenseless unjustified war was fought. Please don't read this in a hurtful way. And I'm terribly, terribly angry. And who knows what happened in the depths of political offices? If there wasn't deliberate cover-up, then I'm really very disappointed at how some people ever thought a war like this one would solve anything. If there was something deliberate, then that's something that shouldn't be forgotten.
You assume that I have Democrat leanings, and I am a so-called "liberal", but I only support what I believe in, neither do I understand the word "liberal". I believe in liberty, protection of the environment, social equality and fraternity (that includes basic rights for all people and yes, gay people), love and peace. I believe that America would be a better place if there were no guns altogether. But does that make me a fucking Democrat or a "liberal"? I hope we would all stop giving each other labels. I believe in what I believe in, not in some shit political classification.
I wrote: "Fuck you, your misguided policies, your fucked-up war on terror". I'm not ashamed to say that I believe the policies are misguided and the "war on terror", in regards to what is happening after Iraq, is also being waged disastrously. I am still angry because I believe the policy of going to war in Iraq has spawned more terrorists than it destroyed. So I am profoundly angry. "You" refers to not Bush, but everyone who is responsible, the "ones who are responsible for all those lies".
I did not say we should up and leave, but that we shouldn't have gone in in the first place. I have every due respect for the people who are sacrificing themselves, and I support every good soldier. I don't envy Bush's position and, needless to say, I can't pass judgement on his personal character. I am just livid at the numbers of lives lost and the possible repercussions because of the mistakes of this administration, the original undertaking deliberately engineered or otherwise. And this anger is compounded by all the other policies I am against.
And believe it or not, I also think just packing our bags is not the right solution. But I don't know what's worse. Sure we have a responsibility to do our best to right the situation, but are we creating a whole lot more terrorists in the long run? I don't know the solution, do you hear me Chris -- which is why I am so pissed! Because this mistake is so costly. And I am so angry because it seems to me that there was selective misinterpretation of data. I understand you are sympathetic to their predicament, and perhaps rightly so, but we will never know if there was any deliberate misinterpretation. And all those lives lost...
I know it might have been hurtful my tone, and I know people like you have courageously offered your lives for the country, and I don't ever mean to diminish what has been fought for. Yes, Iraq is free of a cruel dictatorship, there is chance of better lives for the Iraqis. But I just am fucking pissed whenever I think that it's not ever so simple. How I wish that it will be a happy ending. But reality still hangs in the balance. Chaos, more bloodshed, hate. Of course it's easy to say now that we all could have seen this.
I don't like to discuss politics and all, and do you see why, Chris? Because there are perfectly sound, sensible and I dare say, good, people like you who happen to see things from another perspective, and it's tough to see through all the negativity. It's tough for me definitely but I try and I don't think I succeed. Neither do I think anyone really does. The only thing I regret about my previous post is my tone -- perhaps I have been too vindictive, and if so, I apologize. And if it had been hurtful to the guys who sacrificed themselves, I am sorry but I don't mean it in that way. Love and peace is what I stand for, but if that has to be fought for in this way, like so many other things, and I'm but a goddamn fucker, then it will suck for me. I don't suppose you would've read this far, or even revisited my blog, but if you did, I hope you see beyond my anger, and try to understand why I'm feeling this, like I tried to understand your viewpoint. Yes, I think I do somewhat understand, but I am still very angry, and I know anger is harmful and I will try to let it go away. Oh yeah, I welcome any more comments, because you sound like a decent thinking guy...
Sincerely.
Note on April 27, 2007
I made an editorial change to my writing, because I felt I used the wrong word in the heat of the moment. Tonight I saw clips of John McCain's appearance with Jon Stewart. I felt a little sickened. John McCain seems like a good guy, you know. Political haranguing unsettles me, comedy became the presenter's political platform. Everything becomes completely polarized, when it needn't have been.
if bush duped us then kerry, clinton, schumer, and all those democrat idiots did too since they had in their possession the exact same confidential CIA report. When clinton and kerry were asked about receiving the cia documents, they did not deny having the same docs as bush and his administration. when asked if they read it - both their answers were -- 'well i read bits and pieces of it'... so i wish people like you would get your facts straight before just blaming a man just because you hate the poor guy and it's what everyone else is doing. he made a bad mistake just like the rest of them but it's VERY hard to just up and leave. it may look like there's chaos in Iraq now but if we DO just up and leave, it'll worsen and not just for Iraq but also for America. .. and i speak from experience - i was an air force pilot & commander in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq from the very beginning. Yes, Even I disagree with Bush once in a while but please cut the guy just a little break. I can't even imagine how he sleeps at night with all the stress, the threats, and knowing how bad Iraq looks in the public's eye. If Kerry was in office, I still wouldn't wish him harm like you and the liberals wish on Bush.
My reply:
Chris, I don't know if you're ever gonna be reading this, but I never wished him harm. I never did say anything about upping and leaving either. And I never said anything about the democrats at all. If there is any chance you'd read what I wrote again, I hope you'd understand that I'm angry for the fact that a
You assume that I have Democrat leanings, and I am a so-called "liberal", but I only support what I believe in, neither do I understand the word "liberal". I believe in liberty, protection of the environment, social equality and fraternity (that includes basic rights for all people and yes, gay people), love and peace. I believe that America would be a better place if there were no guns altogether. But does that make me a fucking Democrat or a "liberal"? I hope we would all stop giving each other labels. I believe in what I believe in, not in some shit political classification.
I wrote: "Fuck you, your misguided policies, your fucked-up war on terror". I'm not ashamed to say that I believe the policies are misguided and the "war on terror", in regards to what is happening after Iraq, is also being waged disastrously. I am still angry because I believe the policy of going to war in Iraq has spawned more terrorists than it destroyed. So I am profoundly angry. "You" refers to not Bush, but everyone who is responsible, the "ones who are responsible for all those lies".
I did not say we should up and leave, but that we shouldn't have gone in in the first place. I have every due respect for the people who are sacrificing themselves, and I support every good soldier. I don't envy Bush's position and, needless to say, I can't pass judgement on his personal character. I am just livid at the numbers of lives lost and the possible repercussions because of the mistakes of this administration, the original undertaking deliberately engineered or otherwise. And this anger is compounded by all the other policies I am against.
And believe it or not, I also think just packing our bags is not the right solution. But I don't know what's worse. Sure we have a responsibility to do our best to right the situation, but are we creating a whole lot more terrorists in the long run? I don't know the solution, do you hear me Chris -- which is why I am so pissed! Because this mistake is so costly. And I am so angry because it seems to me that there was selective misinterpretation of data. I understand you are sympathetic to their predicament, and perhaps rightly so, but we will never know if there was any deliberate misinterpretation. And all those lives lost...
I know it might have been hurtful my tone, and I know people like you have courageously offered your lives for the country, and I don't ever mean to diminish what has been fought for. Yes, Iraq is free of a cruel dictatorship, there is chance of better lives for the Iraqis. But I just am fucking pissed whenever I think that it's not ever so simple. How I wish that it will be a happy ending. But reality still hangs in the balance. Chaos, more bloodshed, hate. Of course it's easy to say now that we all could have seen this.
I don't like to discuss politics and all, and do you see why, Chris? Because there are perfectly sound, sensible and I dare say, good, people like you who happen to see things from another perspective, and it's tough to see through all the negativity. It's tough for me definitely but I try and I don't think I succeed. Neither do I think anyone really does. The only thing I regret about my previous post is my tone -- perhaps I have been too vindictive, and if so, I apologize. And if it had been hurtful to the guys who sacrificed themselves, I am sorry but I don't mean it in that way. Love and peace is what I stand for, but if that has to be fought for in this way, like so many other things, and I'm but a goddamn fucker, then it will suck for me. I don't suppose you would've read this far, or even revisited my blog, but if you did, I hope you see beyond my anger, and try to understand why I'm feeling this, like I tried to understand your viewpoint. Yes, I think I do somewhat understand, but I am still very angry, and I know anger is harmful and I will try to let it go away. Oh yeah, I welcome any more comments, because you sound like a decent thinking guy...
Sincerely.
Note on April 27, 2007
I made an editorial change to my writing, because I felt I used the wrong word in the heat of the moment. Tonight I saw clips of John McCain's appearance with Jon Stewart. I felt a little sickened. John McCain seems like a good guy, you know. Political haranguing unsettles me, comedy became the presenter's political platform. Everything becomes completely polarized, when it needn't have been.
posted by mr tickle at 10:21 PM
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Either Jon or Steven Colbert had an expert on that wrote a book about Islamic factions (Shite & Sunni) in Iraq and compared them to earthquake faults. There is an enormous fault line running right through the middle of the country and Saddam was able to keep control of it with force, and things have fallen apart since we introduced democracy. If we leave, the 'big one' will hit and the nation will be destroyed. Did you hear that interview? I found it very enlightening. So, I don't think it will make a difference if we go or not. These people have to make it on their own.
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